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Post by 2008worldchamps on Feb 14, 2014 16:24:32 GMT -5
I'm posting all of the back and forth I could get. Apparently some of it was lost
Doubledays: I'd just hate to do the draft, then after the draft, watch someone drop a player that I would have drafted over my original picks because they are a better fit. That would be extremely frustrating.
Jim W. (Springfield Isotopes): I get that, and it certainly isn't perfect, but I would just rather give the initial owner as much time as humanly possible to get the most out of the asset. I'd rather see somebody give you something for Gordon than just wait for you to drop him.
Jim W. (Springfield Isotopes): I guess to me it comes down to protecting the owners of the graduates over trying to bolster the draft. If somebody ends up cutting a guy that you wanted, you could always drop the guy you drafted and then claim him. It's not perfect, but that seems
Jim W. (Springfield Isotopes): better to me than asking owners to make less informed decision about their players. Also, if this conversation is going to go on (100% totally fine with me) we should probably start a thread on teh boards so as not to clutter up the shoutbox.
Doubledays: a thread is probably the best way to discuss it, agreed!
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Post by Doubledays on Feb 14, 2014 18:35:54 GMT -5
My comments pretty much say it all.
Once our minors draft ends, teams should make determinations on those who are no longer eligible to be in the minors. Either promote them to their main roster, then cutting someone to waivers from their main roster to make room for them or simply release them to waivers.
Why not make the waiver draft as full as possible. I don't want to have the waiver draft go through, then watch someone deal with their minors situation and drop players that I may or may not have wanted to pick up via the waiver draft. I dont understand why we would have a waiver draft when all eligible waiver possibilities aren't there to be drafted.
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Post by 2008worldchamps on Feb 14, 2014 18:46:31 GMT -5
I think Jim put it very clear why we are against that. He said,
I agree with this 150%. Not to mention I really would prefer owners to get as much time as possible to evaluate what they have.Look at it this way. The guys who are currently on waiver are unrestricted free agents on non-arbitration eligible players. The guys on farms who are ineligible are like restricted free agents or arbitration eligible players bringing two different degrees of free agency. You certainly get longer to deal with players under your control vs players who are unrestricted. Simple answer is we want teams to have as much time to make a decision as possible
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Post by Doubledays on Feb 14, 2014 20:17:39 GMT -5
I have no problem with giving teams plenty of time to make their choices. My suggestion is to have the waiver draft after everyone has had that extra time.
Why even have a waiver draft if you don't enlist all possible waiver possibilities.
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Post by 2008worldchamps on Feb 14, 2014 20:37:36 GMT -5
Because we dont want teams drafting veteren players from the waiver wire during the rookie draft.
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Post by Doubledays on Feb 28, 2014 7:56:52 GMT -5
When are players who were on last years LTIR have to be returned to their lineups for this year?
Again, this is something that may affect the waiver draft as players will need to be returned to main lineups and players will have to be dropped to make room for them.
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Post by 2008worldchamps on Feb 28, 2014 19:28:19 GMT -5
Again, as with the farms, they will have to be taken care of before roster finalization. Roster Finalization will take place not long after the Waiver Draft.
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Post by Fenway Faithful on Mar 2, 2014 14:30:17 GMT -5
so, I'm not entirely sure what brought this up, but I will say I agree with Chris in that it seems we should have our rosters set BEFORE the waiver draft. Other wise it's a first come first serve on the players not promoted from the farm team and LTIR, which in some cases could be a very serviceable player.
I fully understand the LMs wanting to give teams all the time possible, but we aren't having a true waiver draft when all the possible players aren't available. Really if you aren't sure if you're going to call up a player from your farm or activate from your LTIR by the time the waiver draft starts, then that player obviously isn't of THAT great value to you and should be either traded before the draft or let go so another team might give him work.
My 2 cents...not worth a whole lot...and I'm sure this isn't going to be anything that changes, but I wouldn't be doing my part if I didn't at least voice the opinion.
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Post by 2008worldchamps on Mar 2, 2014 16:49:50 GMT -5
I welcome your thoughts, and honestly Im not hellbent against discussing changing it in the future. But for this season we're going to go ahead and have finalization after the waiver draft for all the reasons stated before and because at this point it really doesn't seem right to change it less than a week before the draft. But we can certainly discuss changing it for next season.
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Post by The Beanbaggers on Mar 2, 2014 17:32:36 GMT -5
I'm good either way, but my preference would be to finalize rosters a day (or more) before the waiver draft (to include minor rosters and injuries... both ESPN rosters and long-term injuries), so we are able to have a full waiver draft. I agree its probably too late for this year.
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