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Post by 2008worldchamps on Dec 4, 2012 19:31:28 GMT -5
The "Roy Oswalt Rule" Potential of tweaking Pitcher scoring (specifically RP's) Clarification on policy pertaining to lifting farm limit in off season Adding off season trophies
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Post by Fenway Faithful on Dec 11, 2012 17:54:24 GMT -5
Any thought about discussing the locking of rosters in the playoffs? I know for me, I am still more than 100% against this rule (if that's even mathematically possible)
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Post by 2008worldchamps on Dec 11, 2012 21:55:40 GMT -5
Any thought about discussing the locking of rosters in the playoffs? I know for me, I am still more than 100% against this rule (if that's even mathematically possible) I am pretty sure I can speak for Jim when I answer this. We would certainly be open to discussing tweaking it to make the rule better (though honestly I thought it worked pretty darn well this year), but going back to any kind of an unlocked post-season roster isn't something we want to do for all the reason we discussed last off season. I'm sure Jim can elaborate here when he gets a chance.
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Post by Jim W. (Springfield Isotopes) on Dec 12, 2012 19:16:58 GMT -5
I discussed this with Ed during the postseason, and I think that I would like to let it go for another year or two so we can see how it works. This is a pretty contentious issue, which is fine, but I think everybody would be better served if we held off arguing about it until we've gotten a larger sampling of data.
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Post by Fenway Faithful on Dec 13, 2012 10:23:23 GMT -5
I won this year, and I still HATE this rule. I had Kershaw and Arod either hurt or not playing but not put on the DL (not to mention the 3 other guys I had on the DL already). Our rosters size isn't large enough to accommodate backups at every position and using our farm teams as a "bench" isn't a realistic solution. If we let this go for a few more years, it's going to become part of the "norm" and this limitation of a playoff teams roster is not the normal way fantasy baseball is done.
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Post by 2008worldchamps on Dec 13, 2012 20:02:03 GMT -5
All I can/will say right now is going back to an unlocked roster during the playoffs is something that we are not interested in doing. you say, .
This would be true even if there were no roster freeze. Unlocking the rosters would do nothing to change this. The fact that you won despite your injures only goes to prove my point my think, which is that the best team should win. Even given your injuries, you had the depth and best players and hence you won, as it should be. Furthermore, I have to agree with Jim that there is no way that one season is enough to give a proper sample size to totally decide if the rule works or doesn't work. I will say again that I feel like it worked pretty darn well this season, but I'll say at least two more years of data can't do anything but help with that.
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Post by Fenway Faithful on Dec 14, 2012 10:14:05 GMT -5
I guess I'll zip it then. Thanks.
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Post by Jim W. (Springfield Isotopes) on Dec 15, 2012 2:08:08 GMT -5
I'm not going to get too into things right now, since it's late, but I felt like I should jump in here and touch base a bit. First of all, I am in no way expecting anybody to "just zip it." If you'd like to discuss it I'm all for that.
As for the specific things you brought up, I'm not really sure what you're getting at with your point about Kershaw and ARod. You didn't have any available DL spots, so you didn't drop anybody when you had the chance at the start of the playoff round. Had there been no roster freeze would this have changed?
I never suggested (at least I don't think I did, and if I had then I gave the wrong impression) that I wanted the farm to become an extended bench. What I feel is that with the freeze having a strong bench becomes all the more important, and that acquiring MLB ready farm hands for a playoff run becomes a viable strategy, just like selling prospects for a veteran at the deadline. The farm was never intended to be an extension of the bench. If it were there would be no IP/AB limits, and I'd just increase the bench, lol.
I don't think it's going out on a limb to say that this is a pretty unique league. There are many things that aren't done in "normal" leagues that we do here, so any solutions we put in place need to be tailored to this league, and not "the normal league." So the only response that I can give to a roster freeze not being "normal" is that I agree, but that fact it is irrelevant. I'm not trying to sound flippant (you should know I think too much of you for that Randy), but it's the truth.
As far as waiting a year or two goes, it certainly isn't to try and get everybody to simply accept the status quo, since you need only review our discussion about this last year to see that I'm not entirely happy with what we have in place either. However, I don't think that anything that happened this postseason is evidence enough to say definitively that either of the extreme options discussed last year are a better solution. This leads me to believe that any discussion we have this year would retread last year's discussion, which would bring us right back to where we are. I only suggest we skip the back and forth and stick with the compromise we came to last year for another season.
To touch on the other things Ed brought up originally:
I'm not sure if we need a rule for returning retirees, but I have no real objection to it if it is something the league wants.
I haven't done the math yet, but my thought is eliminate the penalty for blown saves for RPs. This would get rid of the matchup killing BS/L combo, while leaving the L penalty in place would still punish blown saves to a degree. If a team comes back and wins the game the BS didn't kill the RPs MLB team and shouldn't kill your either. I've also given some thoguth to replacing Ws with QSs, but again, I haven't done the math to see how it would impact the scoring balance. Just throwing it out there for some discussion.
End season trophies are a fun touch I have in my other two leagues, and I see no reason not to have them in this league. I was thinking something basic like MVP for top scoring batter and Cy Young for top scoring P. Maybe a RotY award too, along with a coach of the year.
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